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the site safeonlinedeals.com is a scam, dont let it get you.

I have someone trying to get me to go through this site as well, instead of via amazon. I'm very glad I haven't sent off anything yet. :-)

Was about to wire money for a car.... turned out to be too good to be true...

Does anyone know anything about future-escrow.net, I was encouraged to sell an item and get paid through them. Does anyone know anything about it?

I would NOT do that, the only escrow site that I know that is AUDITED by ebay is www.escrow.com Don't be fooled by sites that say safe and secure and have testimonials, they are most probably fake testemonial and they are not safe nor secure!

I encourage everyone to stay away from escrow sites especially ones that a seller recommends. The scam is becoming epidemic and I only see it getting worse. Local law enforcement does not have the resources to handle most of these type of cases; therefore in all likelihood, you have no recourse.

Here's another fake Escrow site:

http://www.buysell-trades.com/

Looks nice and professional, SCAM SCAM SCAM!! Beware!

Here are a few more fake escrow sites:

http://www.treuservice.com/ http://www.ebso-trader.com http://www.safepays.com/ http://www.printztg.org/

First clue: All of those domains had been registered anywhere from a few days to a few weeks ago, but they claim to be in business for years.

And another one I believe: -

www.faster-traders.com

The strange thing here is that the buyer wanted me (as the seller) to use this site? I only assume that the fake site belongs to him, so he can make it look like his payment had arrived, then I send the goods off .... never to be seen again!!

Cheers, O

www.Goods-pay.com is another one. I just had someone on ebay try hard to stear me that way on a deal that was too good to be true. Slimy Weasels!

Hi,

I have recently sent a camcorder to a spanish address using business-real.com, this was over three weeks ago, since then I have emailed the buyer and the company but am not getting any replys! Do you know if this company is fraudulent? Thanks Scott Taylor

Hi,

I have recently sent a camcorder to a spanish address using business-real.com, this was over three weeks ago, since then I have emailed the buyer and the company but am not getting any replys! Do you know if this company is fraudulent? Thanks Scott Taylor

Thanks to this site I've been saved from sending off a £6000+ diamond ring. The buyer was from Moldova and wanted to use www.printztg.org. Something didnt seem quite right so I looked up this site just before I was about to ship the ring to Moldova. The slimy git is still rubbing his hands I bet at the thought of a free ring, think I might keep this going for a while. The little rat is e-mailing me his address anyday now, so this could be fun...

Like Nick Allan, I too have just been saved from what appears to be the same person in Moldova.

Feel free to send an email to: Pavciuc Vladislav

And if you're in Moldova punch him in the head ... hard!!!

http://barros-company.com/

FAKE FAKE FAKE. BRAND NEW as of February. They use it to sell cars. They didn't get me and I am reporting them to all possible fraud investigtors. Hopefully we stop them before they rob anyone.

barros-company.com goes with the post above FAKE FAKE FAKE

Yeah, what a bloody loser. My work mates have suggested going along with it, defecating in a beaker and sending him that. I'm seriously considering it.

Here's the bastard's email:

Hello ,

i am interested in this beautiful laptop item that you wish to sale here on ebay and i would like to buy it . Can you please send me an email with a more detailed description for it and also let me know if the details showed on the description page are acurate . Please let me know the final price for this item that i'll have to pay to buy it . The most important part of this deal is for me the security of the transaction and this is why i wish to use Printz Trading Escrow Company www.printztg.org . Please tell me if you can shipp this item to me by Fedex or DHL. I would like to use one of this two curriers because i live in Republic of Moldavia and thoes are the faster and safer international curriers that i know of. If you wish to see my feedbacks i am regitred with ebay as ID : markchai I look forword for your replay. Kind regards , Pavciuc Vladislav

here's another one:

www.escrow-ic.com

Hi

I have just sent a $2000 dollar laptop to a guy in Moldova, he has had it delivered on the 22nd and I am still waiting for it.

I used printztg.org.... I feel like the biggest idiot, I was selling my item on ebay. He contacted me, it wasn't till I sent the item that I discovered it was a fake site.

What should I do

Bucinschi Alexandru [rassnots@mailftp.com] was his name, he has great feedback on ebay. He must have stolen someone's identity...

What should I do...

nat

I came close to loosing $1000.00 on a laptop purchase. The Seller recomended 'Cycle Trader Escrow' as the Escrow account. Stay away from that company,very, very bad.

FAKE (LOSS OF MONEY) = Cycle Trader Escrow.

www.goods-pay.com. just tried to skam me on a 1993 vehicle from ebay #2469040848. Stay clear!!!

I recently fell victim to Pavciuc Vladislav. It is amazing that this guy has ripped off so many and has not been caught.

Scott, I think business-real.com is a scam. I too sent a product to a spain address recently using business-real.com as escrow. The product has been recieved but buyer and business-real.com donot respond and I have not been paid. Im noticing now that the business-real.com website is down.

Pavciuc Vladislav ugly creature. And Moldova the country from gavna. Site: www.printztg.org Deceit.

i have been ripped off by this guy Pavciuc Vladislav with Printz Trading. I think there is no recourse, if there is one so can tell me about it. Anyway ,i suggest to organise a punitive expedition in Moldova.

Here is another escrow site to watch out for: http://www.escrow-ic.com. The seller was on Amazon.com and the wants you to go to the escrow site to complete the transaction. The escrow company has a London, England address. The seller name was "Rudy Darnell". The email address used was Djsnitel@aol.com. The product was a "Like New" Canon XL1 Camcorder for approx. $1400. If you know anything about camcorders, you can't find a used one at that price. Has anyone else seen this scam?

I have been corresponding with a "seller" named Costel Epure from Romania (supposedly). He is offering a G5, 23" Apple Cinema Display, iPod and an unbelievable amount of other stuff for $2,500. He says it has been confiscated by the government which is why he can sell it for so little. He wants me to use treuservice.com escrow. According to the info posted here that company is probably bogus. Has anyone dealt with him before? His email is costelepure@yahoo.com.

Thankfully there are some legitamite ones out there.

Web browser went berzerks. Hop you can see the URL:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/payment-escrow.html

In feb of 2004 I sent $3000 dollers to the fake escrow co. Safepays.com.... I've never bought anything from e-bay and was looking for a motor bike. The guy who was selling the item was located in CA and the escrow company was located in NYC.... Daniel Duva is the name I sent the money too.... he was supose to be the rep for my transaction. I have three names... 1st reciever of my money(Daniel Duva)... 2nd name of person who opened the web site(He is from gainsville FL) 3rd is the name of seller on ebay(Jswol).... BEWARE OF THE SITE SAFEPAYS.COM...... IT HAS BEEN DOWN SINCE THEY RECIEVED MY MONEY BUT BEWARE THEY ARE A FAKE >>>>>>>

Hey, I think I might be about to join the idiots club, but maybe I caught myself early enough. This morning, I filled out some information on www.escrow-ic.com in hopes of using the site to buy a new laptop. I'm pretty sure that this is a scam now after reading the above posts. The laptop was waaaay underpriced and they guy was kinda strange. I didn't enter any bank account numbers or credit card numbers yet. Am I in danger of losing any money? What should I do? Thanks for your help.

Sincerely, Fellow scamee

Beware:this guy.....Bucinschi Alexandru,from the republic of Moldavia..good e-bay rating...and a dubious web site (CDA market Trader Escrow). I googled his name and was brought to this site.What a SCAM!!!

Hi, This one seller from Ireland want me to use www.webtrades.com Does anyone know about this site.

Please reply!!!!!!!!

Thanks

Anshul

Hi, This one seller from Ireland want me to use www.web-trades.com Does anyone know about this site.

Please reply!!!!!!!!

Thanks

Anshul

YEP, I JUST GOT SCAMED FOR A GRAND FROM WWW.ESCROW-IC.COM TOO. I WILL NEVER TRUST AND ESCROW ADDRESS AGAIN. HOPE THERE IS SOMETHING THE LAW CAN DO ABOUT THEM, SOON.

STAN

Bucinschi Alexandru from Moldovia strikes again ... well, almost.

This SOB is trying to get me to sell him a pair of diamond earrings i have up on eBay. His initial e-mail script is almost exactly the same as others have reported receiving. He pointed me to yet another scam escrow site (the same one as Ed reported above)

http://www.cdamart.com

it has the exact same content as

http://www.printztg.org/

that was referred to in Nick Allan's posting above, it just a different graphical layout.

All the signs are there - site was registered seven days ago, registrar has the owner listed at a street address in Connecticut but the ZIP code he gave is only used for PO boxes ... and the phone number on the record has been mysteriously disconnected.

I'm stringing him along for as long as I can ... not sure what I can really do about it in the end though. I like Jess Morecroft's idea of crapping in a beaker and mailing it to the bastard.

All I have to say is that I'm happy I decided to help my mother sell these and didn't leave it up to her to post ... she would've sent this guy the earrings and would've been out $13,000.00.

It's jackasses like this who pray on innocent people that make me want to spend my money to fly to Moldovia and feed this guy his own fist.

"I like Jess Morecroft's idea of crapping in a beaker and mailing it to the bastard."

That's a phenomenal idea. I highly encourage this.

Yeah, im in the daft club.

Put my phone on ebay, got an email off a lovely TINA, mmmm nope! probably the moldovian Mafia... Sent it over to them, signed for, i got an email back saying she accepted the item and i was awaiting my money. from then on she hasnt replied to my email or the website Printztg.org.

Just emailed her giving so much grief it actually made me laugh.

Sending the phone by Fedex - £50 Losing the phone to Tina - £170 Email her hoping she will die by getting hit by a lorry - - - PRICELESS....

I put the subject as : 'Another Phone if you want it' so hopefully she would have opened it..

PS: I also hoped that moldova had their next international games in Afganistan and she went.!!!!! Fingers crossed.

If your dealing with Printztg.org just email me and ill let you know whatever you want.

Peace out.

Hi! I'm trying to find some information on some escrow companies I have referred to

www.auction-safe-escrow.com

Does anyone know if it's fake? Can I trust it.

I've been contacted by Pavciuc Vladislav who was trying to get me to use www.cdamart.com that's how I ended up at this page. Does anyone know www.paysafe.com is it safe? How about california-trade.com

I've been contacted by Pavciuc Vladislav who was trying to get me to use www.cdamart.com that's how I ended up at this page. Does anyone know www.paysafe.com is it safe? How about california-trade.com

Hi everybody

I have been fraud by this mofo Pavciuc Vladislav thru Printztg. The joKe cost me $ 3,000. I am not ashamed of what has happened to me, but I wanna get to this jerk. Can somebody help me in anyway. This can be providing more info of this guy or Printztg to me. I really want to do something, denounce them to Interpol, sue them..., but I need more info. Perhaps somebody from Chisinau may contact me. My brother is a good lawyer (I Know that¨s no use to take any action, but maybe if some of us get together ... we can get strong and try to do something serious.

He almost got my ass...Mondova mofo Pova, or whatever is name is!

Read this:

Hello ,

ok i have set up the transaction #5671 on www.cdamart.com per your

instructions , 16560 euros and 2 days inspection period .

Please log in your transaction page and accept the transaction and i will

send the money to CDA Market Trader soon.

Thank you

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 03:13:06 +0100, "Ferguson Alonzo A A1C 48 LRS/LGRMF"

said:

2 day inspection period as well!

-----Original Message-----

From: Pavciuc Vladislav [mailto:pavciuc_vlad@mailftp.com]

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:04 AM

To: Ferguson Alonzo A A1C 48 LRS/LGRMF

Subject: RE: Question for seller -- Item #4105436795

Hello ,

ok now you need to register with www.cdamart.com and let me know the

email address you are registred with and i will set up the transaction

for 16560 euros .

Thank you

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 03:00:12 +0100, "Ferguson Alonzo A A1C 48 LRS/LGRMF"

said:

11000 GBP= 16560

Simply divide to get the real time conversion rate!

-----Original Message-----

From: Pavciuc Vladislav [mailto:pavciuc_vlad@mailftp.com]

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:52 AM

To: Ferguson Alonzo A A1C 48 LRS/LGRMF

Subject: RE: Question for seller -- Item #4105436795

Hello ,

in order for me to set up a transaction i need to know how much shipping

will be to country Moldova , city Chisinau-Bender , zip 32000 . Also i

will have to set up the transaction with www.cdamart.com in euros because

this is the only currency this copmpany deals in . I will use www.xe.net

to convert the amount from GBP to euros .

Once i will hear from you with the shipping costs i will set up the

transaction .

Thank you

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 02:46:04 +0100, "Ferguson Alonzo A A1C 48 LRS/LGRMF"

said:

I just got another offer...this person is willing to give me 11,000GBP

in

escrow as well...I told him that I have several offers! Whoever sends

the

payment first with the best offers is going to have these beautiful

exotic

jewelry in their possession by Friday 1 day express! I became a

member...send the request to bigbusin3ss@yahoo.co.uk and if you get the

money in first it's yours!!!

-----Original Message-----

From: Pavciuc Vladislav [mailto:pavciuc_vlad@mailftp.com]

Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:59 AM

To: Ferguson Alonzo A A1C 48 LRS/LGRMF

Subject: RE: Question for seller -- Item #4105436795

Hello ,

yes i am stil interested . Please let me know your final price , how

much

shipping will be trough DHL or USPS Global Express Mail (EMS) to country

Moldova , city Chisinau-Bender , zip 32000 and to get things moving

please register with CDA Market Trader Escrow Company www.cdamart.com

and

let me know the email address you are registred with so once we agree on

the final costs i will set up the transaction .

Thank you

Hello ,

My name is Pavciuc Vladislav and i want to tell you that i am

interested

in this beautiful jewelry item that you wish to sale here on ebay and

i

would like to buy it .

Can you please confirm me if the details showed on the description

page

on ebay are acurate for this item . Also please let me know the final

price that you are willing to sell this item for.

One other thing wich is the most important part for me as i belive for

you to is the security of the transaction and this is why i would like

to

use "CDA Market Trader Escrow Company www.cdamart.com" to conduct this

sale trough.

Another thing that i will like to know is , reguarding shipping , if

you

can shipp this item to me by DHL or USPS Global Express Mail. I would

like to use one of this two curriers because i live in Republic of

Moldavia and thoes are the faster , safer and relible international

curriers that i know of.

If you wish to see my feedbacks i am regitred with ebay as ID :

kcntcao

I look forword for your replay.

Kind regards ,

Pavciuc Vladislav

I say let's b@%w his ass up!!!

j/p but I'm reporting all of the fradulent buyers to the FBI and the Internet Fraud Complaint Center: Here's the list I have so far...

gsjr123,paradiselady62,jimj03,kcntcao(ebay buyers) All of these ebay user ID's are frauds. The ask sellers to make a transction with them using a fake escrow website, so when the seller sends the item...the sites closes down or absolutely no response. I got a Rolex on sale on ebay right now and I know for sure that these individuals are frauds. Go to this website

http://www.gadgetopia.com/2003/12/07/FakeEscrowSites.html

Here are all the fake escrow accounts:

http://www.cdamart.com/ "supported by jimj03 'kleiman@mailftp.com' and kcntcao "pavciuc_vlad@mailftp.com"

www.printztg.org "supported by pavciuc_vlad@mailftp.com"

(www.express-exchanger.com "supported by paradiselady62" [mailto:paradiselady62@yahooo.com]")

www.auction-safe-escrow.com "supported by gsjr123 bestbuyer@secureroot.com"

All the eBay user ID's have been reported to eBay at stopfraud@ebay.com

http://www.gadgetopia.com/2003/12/07/FakeEscrowSites.html (comments from sellers and buyers that have been damaged tremendously by some of these people)

Zao, it seems that all of these listed people are true. Thanks! I've just been contacted by paradiselady trying to get me to use that supposed escrow company along with all the others mentioned. I'm sure they were trying to get their corrupted hands on my piece of jewelry. Thanks to all of you out there, that although you might have suffered a loss have aided and saved others like myself.

Everyone!!! PLEASE COPY THIS AND SEND IT TO YOUR FELLOW EBAY SELLERS or YAHOO, iOFFER, IT DOESN"T MATTER! THIS HAS TO STOP!!! THIS WILL BE THE OFFICAL POSTING OF POTENTIAL FRADULENT BUYERS AND WEBSITES THAT HINT TOWARDS BEING FRADULENT. I SENT TO AS MANY ROLEX SELLERS AS I COULD UNTIL I REACHED MY SENDING LIMIT!!!

Has anyone used www.n-dealing.com ??? Please leave a respone and let me know!!!

THE STATEMENTS BELOW IS WHAT WE NEED TO FORWARD TO ALL SELLERS AND FRIENDS ON E-MAIL! IT COST US ALL!!!

Beware! There are many buyers who set up fake escrow services!!! I'm e-mailing all of the sellers I can in our community to at least make a major impact of the fradulent buyers. I reported all of the fraudulent buyers that contacted me to the FBI and stopfraud@ebay.com. And all but one so far are no longer members, but rest asure they will try to come back under a different user id. If we all can come together and notify each other of all the suspicious buyers than our community will be much safer. Here are what other sellers had to say about the damages they have been caused from these buyers: http://www.gadgetopia.com/2003/12/07/FakeEscrowSites.html 1. If the buyer trys to buy it now without bidding or actually buying it now and they want you to use a escrow service of their choice...do not do it unless you have used that escrow service in the past. 2. You can check what a potential buyer has bid on in his last 200 transactions by going to search, click bidder, and input his user id under the search menu, then adjust your options to see his or her's past auctions as well as present (Almost like a credit check). 3. If he/or she doesn't have no auctions in his history over 200+ days or hasn't brought or won any expensive auctions then he or she is more than likely a fradulent buyer. 4. If the buyer insists for you to check their "Positive Feedback" and you will see this once you do the search that the buyer only purchases cheap items to make his buyer rating score look good? He or she is likely to be a fradulent buyer. 5. Please...to stop prevent the come back of these buyers, forward this to as many sellers as you can becuase I can only forward this to only so many sellers per day because of the sending limit. If we all do our part...Ebay will be a much safer community!!! Please post all of your potential fradulent buyers to this website: http://www.gadgetopia.com/2003/12/07/FakeEscrowSites.html Thanks, it cost us all! exoticdiam0nds Seller of item# 4105436795 Also, I have this potential fradulent buyer, of the above auction#, has anyone used www.n-dealing.com as an escrow service before?

Another thing is if the buyer comes up with an excuse why they can't use www.escrow.com ... more than likely that person is a fake. A real buyer would rather deal with a more prestigious escrow service anyway and will not mind which escrow service to use.

Beware of these buyers...the are fradulent criminals!

vacoch supports www.triple-traders.org

visu7 supports www.real-web-business.com

slipperkipper supports http://www.set-ltd.net/

Alot of sellers are stepping up to these criminals...and now the jewelry area will be more secure. I hope whenever us sellers see a new seller with low feedback we need to teach the individual the techniques to smell a scam and hopefully have him or her teach others. Thanks everyone for your time!

Ben that is so true!!! Read the excuse this buyer made.

Dear sir, I am sorry but i don't work with this escrow because a friend of me was ripped with 4500 euro, because this escrow.com not wait to receive the product and not respect the period of inspection, and they send the money to seller who send other object in the package .For that cause I trust only in (www.triple-traders.org) because this have location in Spain and all my transaction was made with this and I don't have any problem with that. If you want to make the deal with me this is the only way.

vacoch Many thank's!

That's the same buyer you mentioned!!! I'm reported all of them to the FBI and

stopfraud@ebay.com

It also seems like alot of buyers from "Spain" are these fradulent buyers!

Thanks for the info found in your site. I currentlly have high value items listed on ebay and have been approached by vacoch (in posts above) with a post cose in Spain offering Escow services with www.triple-traders.org. Today for another item I received the following email form another "ebayer" with exactly the same postcode. Please beware.

m interesed in your item and if its posible i would love to have it.I`m in Spain and i need to know if you ship here and also the shipping costs to zip code 28805. If you are interesed to sell you item please give me an e-mail at globalind99@yahoo.com Have a nice and profitable day! Thank you, si0321

Regards

Karen p.s. I shall be forwarding all correspondence to ebay.

Has anyone been scammed using www.web-trader.com? I would not use it words of advise..

I sent on March 16th 1,820 western union to escrow-ic for a lap top purchased from a seller with the e-mail name of MichaelMarcott66@aol.com, advertised on Amazon. Of course amazon, citi or western union take no harm stance and it was just my stupid mistake and the scam worked on me. I guess it could have been worse like some that sent for cars. Just remember the escrow-ic and the e-mail of MichaelMarcott66@aol.com fakes and working together to steal from all of us.

hi. i just got ripped of by Bucinschi Alexandru as well. i have not checked this website before bec i just trusted the pritztg.org. i should have been more careful. can we do anything against him or is that not possible-

Has anyone dealt word Internet web shop?

www.internetwebshop.com

Something doesn't seem right

Yeah, I found 'Internetwebshop.com' looking for a laptop

Seems like some amazing deals.... but I'm not sure if it is worth the risk.

I plan to phone them this week, they have an office in london apparently.

Will post the results.

Anyone else used them yet?

Hello, I was planning to buy a notebook from www.internetwebshop.com but I am not sure, there are no customer reviews to read? Anyone with more information about the company, that us know!

Howdy folks. I've read your posts now and then and see lots of mentions about those fake escrows and those bad buyers.

Keep in mind that those buyers that suggest the use of fake escrows are behind those fake sites. If the user ID that they are using has any feedback then it's most likely a hijacked account and needs to be reported as one. If you're familiar with ebay's contact us webform, there is a selection to report another users account as hijacked.

Once on the webform, look for this selection. Make sure to use the right line in the last box or they'll think it's YOUR account that's been stolen.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/contactinline/accountsecurity.html

Report fake ebay emails (spoofs) and unauthorized account activity Unauthorized account activity Report another user's account as stolen

Ed, I just did a WHOIS on internetwebshop.com and it's a scam site. These same fake escrow thieves also put up a lot of fake stores on the net. Most are Romanian and Russian. They're all over Europe and a whole bunch of them are in the UK now. I read recently that Austria has so many romanian crooks in their prisons that they are going to build a prison within Romania just to get them out of their own country.

Going back to that webshop, the domain name is registered to someone in the states, but not in the state they claim on their website AND the most important thing is that they are brand new. SURE sign of a fake sales site. Stay far away. Don't EVER let good prices cloud your buying decisions. Even if you get them on the phone, it's probably a mobile or cell phone. Check with the UK government and see if they have a proper license to do business there. I'll bet they have never heard of them.

Domain Name: INTERNETWEBSHOP.COM Record created on 2004-04-18.

For you other folks who come here asking whether an escrow is legit, look on ebay for a list of the safe ones. Go to Help and on the A-Z index click on E for escrow. There's a list near the bottom of the safe international sites and for you USA members use ONLY escrow.com.

This is a fake escrow service. Please have it shut down.

Thanks

This is a fake escrow service. Please have it shut down.

Thanks

Hi to you all . How are you my friends ? selling , selling ? Well i am buyng , buyng :)))

I was recommanded by the seller to finish a transaction on this website. Does anyone know anything about this site? Because the seller is in UK and I am in U.S. the price is really good, but just worry it is another scam. thanks

Some notes about Internetwebshop.com. (Note- found this forum about them after I wrote the note below. Says more than I could ) http://www.whatlaptop.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8504

1. It appears to be fed by a number of other sites- electronicswebshop.com is one.
2. Note all the prices are in even US dollar figures? 1000.00. 450.00. 1500.00. How often do you see that on a real web store (not an Ebayer).
3. "We will pay all your taxes and shipping". What???
4. No credit cards (that would require a US bank account with all the identification that entails). Money orders, Western Union, or bank drafts only.
5. One of the places you can send your money order, Western Union, or direct bank draft to is directly to a Swiss bank account??? Umm.....
6. No response after a full day to an email stating "I want to buy this if you confirm that it has all the parts to operate it". I wanted to see them write that the laptop had the factory software, ac adapter, etc. Usually, people respond well to a "I want to buy this" subject line.

That forum link above is the kicker- they actually got some ppl to respond to emails and it seems like they're nasty ppl.

Internetwebshop seemed too good to be true so I emailed them. The reply was unprofesional and unsatisfactory. They said that because they are a new store, they have all these promotions. Thank God my girlfriend has more sense than me and recommended I steer clear. After reading these posts, I am in total agreement

Re Internetwebshop.

The Post Office has no record of a 166 Barking Road in London , the postcode is for odd numbers (including 165 &167).

The site does not comply with the EEC Distance Selling Regulations.

A note for Fraud Fighter 1, no license is required in the UK to run a business.

Hi there everybody:

Have you recently checked Printztg.org? I think I have much to do with that as I ordered the computer technician in my office to send them the toughest virus he could. Maybe it is just they have vanished for security purposes, but I feel comfort somehow. I know is not much use but I also think we all are on the right way providing others our experiences, knowledge and support.

Besides, we have to be very aware, and be careful because we all know it is more than probable that these criminals check often our messages in this site, so we can be their thermometer to study their next movements (maybe some of them even participate to catch our confidence. Who knows).

By the way, thanx Fraud fighter for your advice, I have just reported e-bay the hijacked e-mail address this bastard Pavciuc Vladislav used with me.

Just for your advice I would like to report other names and addresses from other people who made me unbelieveble offers for my items. This are: julia_n@123mail.ro (from Romania); Simona Degan (simonadegan@yahoo.com), who told me she was italian and tried to use the fake escrow fast-trader.com; I think all these romanian-moldavians are the same organization of Pavciuc Vladislav Dracula.

Also from overseas: Bernard Batubara (pelekan@khalsa.com) from Indonesia; sales@photoexpresscentral.com also from Indonesia offered me more than double; Asrie Maryam (kelelahan@aol.com) from Malaysia; and some chinese more.

TOGETHER WE CAN CRACK THEIR ASS OUT

InternetWebshop.com

Dear Valued Customer, please allow us a few days to verify the transfer.

They don't seem to respond anymore, so i've started to track them down... If there are more people ripped off by this site, please post a message to share info.

www.internetwebshop.com THIS IS A SITE WHICH TAKES PEOPLES MONEY AND DOES NOT DELIVER THE GOODS! BEWARE!!! DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS SITE!

Same slimeball, Pavciuc Vladislav , from Moldova, wanted to buy a $2000 diamond ring from me. He pushed www.cdamart.com for escrow. After I found out he and cdamart.com are a scam (thanks to this site), I played with him a little and e-mailed him that I'd prefer to use www.escrow.com, and that I would pay the escrow fees, lower the price of the ring and everything. He came back demanding it be on HIS terms only or no deal. What a scumbag!

Jon, do you still keep in touch with him?. I was fraud by this bastard, and will like to know the e-mail address he is using with you.

It is amazing he keeps on using this same name. He is not that ignorant ???

Anybody recently contacted by this thief, just play with him and please send me any contact e-mail he is using. I´m tracking him, and wont stop until I can rip off his balls

Hi my name is kari I sold a diamond ring on ebay #4107134011 he was from spain he said his namewas donatto luigi his email is phamz1026@earthlink.net well I must be dum becouse I had never heard of fake escrow company he got me to use www.pro escrow .com I sent the ring out to spain becouse it showed the money was in there his address I sent it to was donatto lugi calle sant frutous,nr.29,3-2 barcelona spain 8004 i sent the diamond ring fedex over night last friday and my ring was for 15,000.00if any one knows anything please contact me Iam just sick over this I cant belive this scumbag did this to me other emails he is useing are .lisbird@earthlink.net cindyuynh@earthlink.net and utahchargerzz@earthlink.net I have a investergator tracking and they foun he has 83 websits all earthink Iam still in shock that I sent my diamond ring to him again it was 15,000.00 they also found that his domain was from canada and also the investergator saw that he bought hardweare to downloadin to his computer and its fake escrow company its also called onlineescrowpro the escrowID he used was quoskn14 I cant even sleep over this how could I have been so dum I also emailed him back telling him I will get you basterd if any one nos anything let me know . please mercedes_364@hotmail.com I hope he burns in HELL

Found a plasma tv on Amazon.com I wanted and tried to purchase it...got a message back that seller could not accept payment and to contact seller directly. I got an email back from the seller with a story and a recommendation to use www.safedeals-online.com for the transaction. All of this reminded me of another scam someone tried to pull with me on a car last year, so I began to check out the company and quickly found this site, which has confirmed my suspicions. The email address he's using is planetarr@aol.com and the name he used is Mike Lacey.
I haven't responded to him yet, so if anyone has any suggestions of something I might do to help catch these guys, please let me know. I keep hearing that old phrase, "if it seems too good to be true...probably is."

To all of you out there, A scammer has been trying the last 3 days to get me to buy his car through safedeals-online.com. After realizing this deal is too good to be true, I came to this site. Safedeals-online.com is a b.s. website. Fake. The scammer's name is Brian Heess, his aol.com email account is Brianheess68@aol.com, and supposedly he's in Oregon so be careful!! DO NOT use safedeals-online.com!

I've bought a Laptop at www.internetwebshop.com. Unfortunately I read these commenst first now. I've payed 1257,00 Euro for nothing. The Site is off now. The Bank in Switzerland is informed by me and I think the Police is very interested in stopping the account. For sharing infos mail to me.

The following inquiry was sent to me about my very expensive laptop auction on eBay. The email follows a classic fraud pattern, but I thought it would be worth it to post, if only to document the two new aliases being used in this scam:

Hello dear seller, my name is Cotolea Anna and in the next 2 weeks me and my hasband will open a shop here in country Moldova and we need the products for our shop. It will be our family business. My shop will have two kind of products - new and used. I am very interested in your item because it's what we want to sell in our shop. Is it possible for you to state a 'Buy It Now' price, which includes delivery? If you can supply me more units I will be glad to purchase them and maybe you can offer me a little discount. We prefer DHL or USPS Global Express Mail delivery services because they have proved to be very reliable. We will of course pay extra for this. We like to use CDA Market Trader Escrow Company (www.cdamart.com) because they are moving fast on transactions and they are secure and we need that. My ID on ebay is mark0511 if you want to see my feedbacks. I look forward to hear from you soon! Cotolea Anna

I too was contacted by Cotolea Anna - though with a different eBay ID - mamakassie . wanted to use cdamart.com

over the last few weeks I have been approached by several "interested" buyers steering me toward numerous escrows, all bogus.

so it's not only 'caveat emptor" but seller beware also! stay clear from the below sham escrows:

www.cdamrt.com www.fasttr.com www.california-t.com www.merchant-point.com www.paydirectly.com

I just got this about 24 hours after replying to the Cotolea email with a "not interested." This feels a bit too good to be true, and I know from a foreign born friend that Moldova and Romania are a stone's throw appart geographically. This could be how the scam artist gets hold of legitimate accounts with good feedback, or it might simply be how stolen goods are sold off (I also know that Moldova isn't the kind of place with a market for high end laptops).

hello, We want to hire an experienced person who can post our auctions(laptops,electronics) on ebay.com We just saw your auction on ebay.Our company is based in Romania.Where are you located?We can`t post auctions from here because we do not have qualified personnel.You will be payed between 200-800$(depends on products) on every item you will sell for us.Are you willing to work for us? this are questions that will help us deciding if you are the right person for this job. Best Regards,

www.internetwebshop.com

THIS SITE IS REALLY FAKE! I PAYED 329€ FOR A DIGITAL CAMERA, BUT NOTHING ARRIVED!

What do you know about "egold.com"? Someone stole my name and address to sell on ebay , but directed paymant to this site.

BEWARE there are a lot of criminals from Romana advertising on www.alibaba.com who are ripping people off selling Apple Ipod Minis

They say their business is in Italy but we traced all the their emails to Romania

None of them accept www.escrow.com but either money orders using Westernunion or fake escrow sites

We have been ripped off by the following company which has been shutdown sale.co (ebay user cvv13). They have been removed from www.alibaba.com

We have contacted the FBI internet fraud unit and Interpol

DON"T DO BUSINESS WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN'T ACCEPT www. escrow.com

THEY ARE A FRAUD

Also use Notify.com to trace any email it shows where that person is located
If they say they are located in Italy but the email shows Romaina you know its a fraud

DON'T BUY ANYTHING FROM EASTERN EUROPE ITS ALL A CON ESPECIALLY ROMAINIA BUNCH OF COMMI BASTARDS

Well POOR Cotolea Anna almost got me! Thank you for this website or I would have sent a $20000 ring to this bitch. There should be something we can do about this.

Dear ksm6668,

Dear seller , my name is Cotolea Anna and i am contacting you reguarding this beautiful jewelry item that you wish to sale here on ebay . I am interested in purchasing it and i have a few questions for you reguarding the item and the purchase terms : - Can you please confirm me taht the details showed on the description page on ebay are acurate for this item . - Please let me know the final price that you are willing to sell this item for. - One other thing wich is the most important for me as i belive for you to is the security of the transaction and this is why i would like to use "CDA Market Trader Escrow Company www.cdamart.com" to conduct this sale trough. - My last question is , reguarding shipping , if you can shipp this item to me by DHL or USPS Global Express Mail. I would like to use one of this two curriers because i live in Republic of Moldavia also known as Moldova and thoes are the faster , safer and most relaible international curriers that i know of. If you wish to see my feedbacks i am regitred with ebay as ID : lucy1501 I look forword for your replay . Kind regards , Cotolea Anna

To view the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4112036439

Thank you, lucy1501

I was almost scammed off of amazon, but once again, this web site saved my ass. Anyway, it was for a Sharp Aquos 37" TV, same deal as the others...the name being used was galicor@aol.com and the name was Gail Miller. She or he, or whoever, tried directing me to safedeals-online.com so stay away from that site. Also, tried getting me to use Western Union...oops, they are good about preventing this kind of thing. Thanks.

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should anyone selling an item use any kind of service other than Ebay recomended sites. I was selling a very expensive watch, amounting to over $24,000 US funds, and have been contact by NUMEROUS individuals wanting to purchase the watch without first making a bid, or using Escrow.com as their Escrow company. I was ALMOST scammed out of the watch today, but managed to stop the shipment after reading this site when I suspected something was wrong with the address. YOU ALL SAVED ME tons of money. Thank you....

WARNING! The following user's and Escrow companies may be a FRAUD!

Cotelea Anna -

Dear seller ,

my name is Cotolea Anna and i am contacting you reguarding this beautiful jewelry item that you wish to sale here on ebay . I am interested in purchasing it and i have a few questions for you reguarding the item and .........................

She Continues....................................

• One other thing wich is the most important for me as i belive for you to is the security of the transaction and this is why i would like to use "CDA Market Trader Escrow Company www.cdamart.com" to conduct this sale trough.
  • My last question is , reguarding shipping , if you can shipp this item to me by DHL or USPS Global Express Mail. I would like to use one of this two curriers because i live in Republic of Moldavia also known as Moldova and thoes are the faster , safer and most relaible international curriers that i know of. If you wish to see my feedbacks i am regitred with ebay as ID : lucy1501 I look forword for your replay . Kind regards , Cotolea Anna

WARNING! This is FAKE!!!!!

Also, world-trade-service.com MAY BE A FAKE ESCROW SERVICE!

PLEASE ALSO check and verify that FASTTR.COM is a real site. I can't not verify that this is an actual ESCROW company and has been suggested by other users on ebay.

Thank you...

Just be safe and only use the Escrow sites that ebay recomends. If you use the US ebay (ebay.com) it'll say only escrow.com. If you use a european ebay, it'll recomend 4 or 5 others for use in International deals. If someone refuses to use any of those services for any reason, don't do business with them unless they pay you cash, up front, before you send the item. No matter how much they offer you, remember that you don't get a penny if it's fake.

I did a search before I buy a camcorder from Amazon. The guy asked me to use safedeals-online as escrew. When read the info here, I realized this is a fraud. Here is the email the guy sent to me ("Alessandra Bellucci" ):

HI ,

I'm very glad you are interested in buying my product! First of all I want to apologize for my English and for my late answer, my mom was sick and I was out of town. The item is brand new in the original box with all the paper and accessories with 3 year transferable warranty. It was a gift but i don`t need it.I open it only to test it and its work perfectly.

• Sony DCRVX2000 MiniDV Digital Camcorder with 2.5"
• MiniDV camcorder
• 12x optical, 48x digital, zoom with Super SteadyShot image stabilization
• 2.5 inch color LCD and color EVF
• 3 CCD camcorder
• Analog-to-digital conversion with pass-through port

I will ship the product via UPS because my best friend works there and will cost me nothing to ship it.Because I want to be safe for both of us we will close this deal using http://www.safedeals-online.com . A very trustable and professional escrow service.Please visit http://www.safedeals-online.com/index.php?action=howitworks You will be able to inspect the product up to 2(two) weeks before escrow will release the funds to me.This service will protect both of us.Please go to http://www.safedeals-online.com and open a new account with them. Then INITIATE the transaction at $990. I'm already a member and i'm waiting for you to start the transaction. For inspection period i think 10 days (from the day you receive the package) it`s enough but if you want more please tell me. You can check my rating with them on the home page using my e-mail address. You will see I'm a serious person and I have closed 18 positive transactions through them. Best Regards, Alessandra Bellucci

PS: Check the following links to see why it is safe to use this kind of service (SafeDeals-Online):

http://www.safedeals-online.com/index.php?action=whyescrow http://www.safedeals-online.com/index.php?action=howit_works

I just got the same thing as zb when looking for laptops on amazon. I haven't really looked into it yet, but is there a way to easily report these to amazon?

From: Linda Brown Subject: Re: Toshiba Satellite P25-S609 on Amazon To: Josh Hansen

Hello ,

I'm very glad you are interested in buying my Toshiba p25-s609! First of all I want to apologize for my English. The item is brand new in the original box with all the paper and accessories with 1 year transferable warranty. It was a gift but i dont need it.The price is $990 I will ship the laptop via UPS because my best friend works there and will cost me nothing to ship it.So don't worry for the shipping taxes because will be payed by me. Because I want to be safe for both of us we will close this deal using httt://www.safedeals-online.com . A very trustable and professional escrow service.Please visit httt://www.safedeals-online.com/index.php?action=how_it_works You will be able to inspect the product up to 4 weeks before escrow will release the funds to me.This service will protect both of us.Please go to httt://www.safedeals-online.com and open a new account with them. Then INITIATE the transaction. I'm already a member and i'm waiting for you to start the transaction. For inspection period i think 14 days (from the day you receive the package) its enough but if you want more please tell me. You can check my rating with them on the home page using my e-mail address.

Best Regards, Linda Brown

I just read the above message "Subject: Re: Toshiba Satellite P25-S609 on Amazon". Guess what? I've got an almost identical email in my inbox right now in reference to an 17" Apple Powerbook on Amazon. All the same guy? Or all just using the same template?

"I'm very glad you are interested in buying my product!First of all I want to apologize for my English and for my late answer, my mom was sick and I was out of town.The item is brand new in the original box with all the paper and accessories with 3 year transferable warranty.It was a gift but i don`t need it.I open it only to testit and its work perfectly."

What I've learned: NEVER let the SELLER specify the escrow service. He who has the gold makes the rule-- if the seller wants your money they should follow your rules.

Thank all of you who have posted comments here. You've saved me $984.

BE WARNED...his name is Alessandra ... I got the same email:

 HI ,   I'm very glad you are interested in buying my product! First of all I want to apologize for my English and for my late answer, my mom was sick and I was out of town. The item is brand new in the original box with all the paper and accessories with 3 year transferable warranty. It was a gift but i don`t need it.I open it only to test it and its work perfectly.    - Apple PowerBook Notebook 17" M9462LL/A  - 1.5 GHz PowerPC G4  - 512 MB DDR SDRAM  - 80 GB Ultra ATA Hard Disk  - CD-RW: 24x (read), 16x (write), 8x (rewrite); DVD Recorder  - Mac OS X  - Mail, iChat, Safari, Sherlock, Address Book, QuickTime,    iLife (includes iTunes, iPhoto, iSync, iCal, DVD Player,    Classic environment, Acrobat Reader, Art Directors Toolkit,    EarthLink TotalAccess (includes 30 days of free dial-up    service with Earthlink activation), FileMaker Pro Trial,    GraphicConverter, OmniGraffle, OmniOutliner, QuickBooks for    Mac New User Edition, Zinio Reader, Developer Tools    and Apple Hardware Test  - 17 inch display  

muie bah fraierilor o sa va prostim pe toti

Thank God I found this site on time, I was about to buy a Satellite P25 Laptop with the exact same Linda Brown . Is there something Amazon.com can do to prevent this kind of scams?

Be aware of safedeals-online.com, they tried once again!

Does anyone know if www.fasttr.com is fake? I think I have been scammed. The guys name is Francesco Luca e-mail address francescoluca@frominter.net....If it is fake how do I report it and who do I report it to?

Depends on where you are and whether you were the seller or buyer. If you were the buyer, call your bank this second or visit it first thing tomorrow morning. You can have the funds tracked and returned. It works just like a chargeback and is actually relatively painless. If you wait till the funds go into a country with banking confidentiality laws, it's pretty much gone for good.

If your purchase used paypal, you can file a fraud claim with them. They'll try to retrieve the funds, but if they don't you may be eligible for their limitted insurance (something like $500).

You can also contact the various Internet anti-fraud agencies. In the U.S. it's part of the FBI, but it has a counterpart in the EU. Don't expect to get your money back, but there's a slim chance of getting justice.

If you were the seller, get yourself on the phone with the shipping company. If you used a trackable service (such as UPS, Fedex, or priority USPS), they can locate and turn your package around up until the time it is delivered. With international shipments you'll probably have to pay for shipping back to the U.S., but it's better than losing the whole thing.

BTW, as a second reply to the guy asking about www.fasttr.com, the website is not sh*tlisted anywhere yet, but it has many key fraud signs:

1. Looks similar to the other scam Escrows that have been posted.
2. Sketchy contact information.
3. NSLookup shows that this site uses the same ISP as cdamart.com.
4. No one, anywhere on the web, is linking to the website (try searching for it).
5. As per #4 above, no legitimate sites like eBay have listed it as a safe site.

It is a scam. Begin pursuing the channels I listed above immediately if you want a chance at getting your money/item back.

BUYER BEWARE

     I tried to purchase a camcorder on amazon and this is the responce I recieved from a Mr. Greg Parish. (after the purchase through amazon did not go thru)  Not the same name but story line is pretty much the same : "i want both of us to be safe, let's use safedeals-online" .  After reading it i tried to pull up the website and the only thing that came up was an ERROR and the one we are on now. Thank you everyone for posting your expeirences, you have helped me enormously, i had no idea this type of bullshit was going on.

Dear Sir,

I am very glad that you are interested in buying my product listed on amazon.The camera is like new, in excellent condition.It has no scratches or any other damages.I am selling it because i dont actually need it.I have it for 2 months and i have only used it twice to test it.So it is practically brand new.It comes in the orriginal box,with all the orriginal accesories and manuals.It is still under warranty-10 months left.I will ship it with the warranty papers and the receipt.

Here are the features for canon xl1s: -Video format: MiniDV -Audio: 16/12 bit PCM digital stereo -Maximum CCD resolution: 3 x 270,000 pixels -CCD size: 3 x 0.3 inches -Eyepiece viewfinder: Yes -Filter diameter: 72 millimeters -Optical zoom: 16x -Digital zoom: 32x -Focusing system: TTL autofocus, manual focusing possible -Maximum shutter speed: 1/15,000 sec -Lens mount: XL interchangeable lens system (supplied: f/1.6-2.6, 5.5-88mm) -Interchangeable lens system, magnesium alloy body, pixel shift technology, color bars, interval recording, audio dubbing, zebra pattern, reduced power consumption -Television system: EIA standard (525 lines, 60 fields) NTSC color signal -Video recording system: 2 rotary heads, helical scanning systemDV system (Consumer digital VCR SD system)Digital component recording -Connections: IEEE1394, S-Video, RCA

The package containes: XL1S, 16x zoom lens, BP-930 battery pack, CA-910 compact power adapter, DC-900 DC coupler, SS-1000 shoulder strap, WL-D32000 wireless controller, SP-100 shoulder pad, S-150 S-video cable, STV-150 stereo video cable, MiniDV videocassette, lens hood. I will cover the shipping costs and i will ship it with the warranty papers and the orriginal receipt.

I want to close this deal with you but i want it to be safe for both of us. I suggest to use an escrow service that i am very familiar with:www.safedeals-online.com,a very trustable and professional service. Please visit http://www.safedeals-online.com/howitworks.php. You will be able to inspect the product up to 2(two) weeks before this service will release the funds to me. You can check my rating with them at http://www.safedeals-online.com/check_rating.php using my e-mail address. Please go to http://www.safedeals-online.com and open a new account with them. Then INITIATE the transaction.or,let me know when you are registered and i will start it. I'm already a member and I'm waiting for you to let me know when we can begin the process. For inspection period I think 15 days (from the day you receive the package) it `s enough but if you want more please tell me.I will cover the escrow fees and also the shipping costs.I will ship it via UPS worldwide express and ship it immediatelly.

Best Regards, Greg Parrish

do NOT use safedeals-online.com!! I also received an email from Alessandra Belucci... be warned!! This website just saved me $1600! So glad i checked him out first....

HI ,

I'm very glad you are interested in buying my product! First of all I want to apologize for my English and for my late answer, my mom was sick and I was out of town. The item is brand new in the original box with all the paper and accessories with 3 year transferable warranty. It was a gift but i don`t need it.I open it only to test it and its work perfectly.

• Samsung Tantus HPN6339 63" HDTV-Ready Flat-Panel Plasma TV
• 63-inch widescreen high-definition plasma display with DVI and dual component-video inputs; 47.4 x 28.5 x 3.1 inches (W x H x D)
• 1,366 x 768 pixel resolution; 16:9 aspect ratio matches DVD movies and HDTV broadcasts
• Extraordinary 1,000:1 contrast ratio, high 700 cd/m2 brightness; includes RGB PC input
• NTSC dual-tuner, split-screen PIP lets you watch two programs simultaneously
• 10 watts per channel speaker outputs (for use with optional matching speakers, model PSM6330)

I will ship the product via UPS because my best friend works there and will cost me nothing to ship it.Because I want to be safe for both of us we will close this deal using http://www.safedeals-online.com . A very trustable and professional escrow service.Please visit http://www.safedeals-online.com/index.php?action=howitworks You will be able to inspect the product up to 2(two) weeks before escrow will release the funds to me.This service will protect both of us.Please go to http://www.safedeals-online.com and open a new account with them. Then INITIATE the transaction.You must pay an extra fee to make the deposit so please deduct $80 from the total price when you will start the transaction, so start the transaction at $1500. I'm already a member and i'm waiting for you to start the transaction. For inspection period i think 10 days (from the day you receive the package) it`s enough but if you want more please tell me. You can check my rating with them on the home page using my e-mail address. You will see I'm a serious person and I have closed 18 positive transactions through them. Best Regards, Alessandra Bellucci

PS: Check the following links to see why it is safe to use this kind of service (SafeDeals-Online):

http://www.safedeals-online.com/index.php?action=whyescrow http://www.safedeals-online.com/index.php?action=howit_works

safedeals-online.com is a scam i got this email when trying to buy a toshiba laptop found in amazon.com:

Hello ,

I'm very glad you are interested in buying my Toshiba p25-s609! First of all I want to apologize for my English. The item is brand new in the original box with all the paper and accessories with 1 year transferable warranty. It was a gift but i dont need it.The price is $990 I will ship the laptop via UPS because my best friend works there and will cost me nothing to ship it.So don't worry for the shipping taxes because will be payed by me. Because I want to be safe for both of us we will close this deal using httt://www.safedeals-online.com . A very trustable and professional escrow service.Please visit httt://www.safedeals-online.com/index.php?action=how_it_works You will be able to inspect the product up to 4 weeks before escrow will release the funds to me.This service will protect both of us.Please go to httt://www.safedeals-online.com and open a new account with them. Then INITIATE the transaction. I'm already a member and i'm waiting for you to start the transaction. For inspection period i think 14 days (from the day you receive the package) its enough but if you want more please tell me. You can check my rating with them on the home page using my e-mail address.

Best Regards, Linda Brown

Check this and be careful with safedeals-online.com. Registration doesn't have address, good emails, it was registred a few days ago etc...it doesn't smell good....all info is fake DO NOT USE SAFEDEALS-ONLINE.COM

Domain Name.......... safedeals-online.com Creation Date........ 2004-05-11 Registration Date.... 2004-05-11 Expiry Date.......... 2005-05-11 Organisation Name.... Malik Istvan Organisation Address. 2102 Raintree Ln. Organisation Address. Organisation Address. Trenton Organisation Address. 08600 Organisation Address. waiguo Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Malik Istvan Admin Address........ 2102 Raintree Ln. Admin Address........ Admin Address........ Trenton Admin Address........ 08600 Admin Address........ waiguo Admin Address........ UNITED STATES Admin Email.......... rail1972@hotmai.com Admin Phone.......... +1.6098511695 Admin Fax............ +1.6098511695

Tech Name............ Malik Istvan Tech Address......... 2102 Raintree Ln. Tech Address......... Tech Address......... Trenton Tech Address......... 08600 Tech Address......... waiguo Tech Address......... UNITED STATES Tech Email........... safedeals_online@yahoo.com Tech Phone........... +1.6098511695 Tech Fax............. +1.6098511695 Name Server.......... ns1.dns.com.cn Name Server.......... ns2.dns.com.cn

I was going to buy a Mac G4 from amazon.com and the the seller wanted to use safedeal-online.com. I thought it seemed odd, so I call western union and they said not to do it. They don't work with any escrow site except for escrow.com. The sellers name was Alessandra and was from the UK. This is not a real site and is a scam. Just stop buying things off of amazon.com. They can't protect its customers.

Is any one know about californiatrader.net? also the paydirectnet.com? these all are escrows company that arerecently suggested by the buyers from spain.